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Shanghai:  Covid 19 response and reality, half a world away


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We are all familiar with the restrictions imposed on Canadian citizens-masks, social (anti) distancing, hand washing, temperature tests, occupancy limits and travel quarantines.  While there is not 100 % cooperation or buy-in, many still follow the general rules and grumble about it.

If we look around the world at the many examples of good and bad situations in different countries, we see total or partial lockdowns, temperature and virus testing in airports and public places and varying degrees of industry specific shut downs.

The United States is experiencing a difficult time, something President Trump is being blamed for, yet individual states have been tasked with specific responses to the crisis.  Other countries and leaders face similar scenarios.

Sweden did not lock down and while they experienced a high rate of infection and death, they now enjoy a far better social and economic future without the riots and social issues that other nations see daily.

No one agrees 100% with strategies to cope with the spread of the virus, however, I would like to tell you about Shanghai and China, a place that Skip Canevit calls home and has done so for 15 years.

I will present this information in his words and use a question and answer format.

Tim:  Tell me how China and Shanghai are coping now with the pandemic?

Skip:  With the exception of sporting events, everything is fully open with no physical distancing required, no masks required except when riding public transportation or if you wear one for pollution. Schools in Shanghai are 100% open and have been for 5 months. This seems to be the case here in Shanghai and I hear the identical situation from my expatriate contemporaries in Tianjin, Wuxi, Guangzhou, Beijing and I’m sure others.

Tim:  In Alberta, our province, like all others, are struggling with physical distancing, sanitizing, masks and instructional ratios.

Skip:  That is not a problem here, even if people from the West don’t belive how China and Tiawan have shut this down the virus it doesn’t change the reality that it is a fact. Here schools are operating normally. The kids wear masks when in a crowd. But here is what we know: Since the restart of schools 5 months ago there have been NO new cases in schools and NO deaths in children and NO teachers catching the COVID-19.

Tim:  That is interesting, there is a fear that teachers will become infected and have to stay home.  Also, there is still fear that this is too soon to start classes normally without a vaccine.  Fear and caution are still high.

Skip:  If someone gets sick, they stay home for a couple of days and then come back when they are well, just like one does with any influenza. Children need to learn, so they are here.  Even on the streets when I go shopping, some stores are taking your temperature as you entered.  If it was normal, you were allowed to go in.  Masks are not required, people wear them in dense public settings. We wash our hands, wash our food before cooking it, just common sense hygine.

Tim:  So there are few precautions being taken in the most populous nation in the world right now?

Skip:  If kids or adults show symptoms, they are treated with Zinc and Hydroxycloroquine and a couple of days later, they are fine and go back to school. Sometimes they add a Zpac or a steroid. It works here, it is politically poison in the US and Canada. But as I said, kids have not shown been showing symptoms nor have they died from it.

Tim:  In North America, there is a huge push back against HCQ.

Skip:  In many countries it has been the most used treatment and the most effective in early treatment for COVID-19. It works and is cheap and means a vaccine is not necessary.  Three good things about it.

Tim:  For some reason, it has been panned by Doctors and health organizations so many physicians cannot prescribe it to patients in the US and Canada.

Skip:  That is sad. It is mostly because of the politicalization of it. The globalists/socialist/communist don’t want to see Trump re-elected so if it will help orange man—it has to be bad because Orange Man Bad. I suspect big pharma also plays a roll in this too. Someone needs to follow the money.

Tim:  So what is open in China and Shanghai?

Skip:   Clubs, pubs, restaurants, churches, grocery stores, department stores, malls, schools, factories, businesses of all sorts, tourist facilities, dance clubs and so many more facilities are open.

Tim:  You are aware of the situation in North America?

Skip:  I have been following it closely, I was raised in California you know.

Tim:  What would you tell the governments and citizens if your words could change their policies?

Skip:  Look at the recovery and life expectancy statistics. Open up, you are killing more people sequestering them (this is not a quarantine) with depression, alcoholism and drug overdose.  Let people live, get sick, recover and move on.  The world cannot stop because of a virus that is being touted as more powerful than Dr. Doom, Lex Luthor and Hitler combined but in reality the math doesn’t show that at all. And now that the CDC came clean, well it’s time to adjust the numbers and realize this is nothing more than a bad case of the flu and can be combatted with simple practices.

Tim:  What kind of practices?

Skip:  Common sense:  If you are sick, stay home.  If you are healthy, get to work!  Go to school, travel and meet people.  Practice good hygiene and if in a highly densely crowded area and you feel compelled wear a mask, but 90% of the masks out there are nothing more than a placebo. Our society has been damaged so much already by shutdown and distancing. It should not be a political tool, a way for a former software executive and his compatriots to make money from a vaccine nor should it be used to destroy the American way of life. Live your life!

Tim:  Thanks Skip, I appreciate it.

So, there you have it folks.  China, the country using HCQ and other drugs to combat what we send people home for 2 weeks and have paralyzed North America with.  Makes you ask the question, politics aside, who is running the table in our governments and allowing such societal abuse of our citizens when there is a treatment that works….

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Tim Lasiuta is a Red Deer writer, entrepreneur and communicator. He has interests in history and the future for our country.

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NewsAlert: Alberta premier isolating after minister tests positive for COVID-19

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EDMONTON — Alberta Premier Jason Kenney is isolating at home after one of his cabinet ministers tested positive for COVID-19.

A spokesman for Kenney says the premier went into self-isolation after learning that Municipal Affairs Minister Tracy Allard was infected.

Deputy press secretary Harrison Fleming says Allard had been isolating since the weekend because a close contact tested positive.

He says Allard received her positive test result this afternoon and Kenney immediately went into isolation as a precaution.

Shortly before that, Kenney was speaking in the legislature during question period.

Alberta is reporting 406 new cases of COVID-19 and three new deaths.

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This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 21, 2020.

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“Focused Protection” instead of COVID Restrictions. Three prominent epidemiologists calling for a new global response to COVID-19

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When it comes to COVID-19, one way or another countries around the world are eventually going to achieve herd immunity.  The way most countries are approaching the situation currently will stretch out the amount of time it’s going to take.  There are good reasons for that.  But now that the virus has been with us for close to a year we’ve learned not everyone is at the same risk of a serious outcome.  Some leading epidemiologists think it’s time to take another look at the global response to COVID.  As businesses close, millions look for work, seniors long for a hug from a loved one, and young people dream of getting back to their favourite sport, a new approach is being recommended.

The first few days of October, a group of epidemiologists headed by Harvard University’s Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Oxford University’s Dr. Sunetra Gupta, and Stanford University’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya met to discuss the way governments around the world are reacting to the COVID-19 crisis.  As a result of their discussions they posted The Great Barrington Declaration, a call for “Focused Protection”.  The declaration outlines a new strategy they hope governments around the world will soon adopt.  Coming out of their meeting the three co-signers of the declaration were interviewed by Freddie Sayers of UnHerd.  Here’s the fascinating discussion of why these leading thinkers are calling for a different global response to the pandemic.

On October 4, 2020, this declaration was authored and signed in Great Barrington, United States, by:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring of infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

“This is the saner approach, the more scientific approach,” the authors tell Freddie Sayers

The Great Barrington Declaration

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical, and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice. 

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza. 

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e.  the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity. 

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. 

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals. 

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

Great Barrington, Massachusetts, 4th October 2020

To sign the declaration, follow this link

As of Wednesday, October 7 (only 3 days into this campaign) this declaration has been signed by over 3,500 Medical & Public Health Scientists, over 5,600 Medical Practitioners, and by over 84,000 members of the general public. 

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