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Jordan Peterson debate with left-wing commentator over COVID vaccine goes viral

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By Clare Marie Merkowsky

Prominent Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson’s COVID vaccine debate with a left-wing online political commentator has gone viral on social media.

During a March 21 episode of the Dr. Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, Peterson debated left-wing live streamer Steven Bonnell II, known as Destiny, on various issues including mRNA COVID vaccines and mandates.  

“There’s more negative effects reported from the mRNA vaccine than there were from every single vaccine ever created since the dawn of time,” Peterson stated during the interview, a fact supported by the CDC’s own Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).   

The debate has since gone viral, with many clipping portions of the debate on social media while social media influencers have posted videos reacting to the interview.   

During the discussion, Bonnell argued that none of the fears conservatives had regarding the COVID vaccine had come true, such as mass deaths following the vaccine rollout.   

However, Peterson countered Bonnell’s claim, pointing out that excess deaths have skyrocketed in countries where the mRNA vaccines were administered en masse.

“One relatively straightforward hypothesis [to explain excess mortality is that it is] a consequence of the disruption of the healthcare system, the staving off of cancer treatment, et cetera,” Peterson admitted. “The increase in depression, anxiety, suicidality, and alcoholism that was a consequence of the lockdowns, the economic disruption.”

“But the other obviously glaring possibility is that injecting billions of people with a vaccine that was not tested by any stretch of the imagination with the thoroughness that it should of before it was forced upon people, also might be a contributing factor,” Peterson declared.  

Peterson also argued that while vaccines have been mandated in the past, “We did it on a scale and at a rate during the COVID pandemic, so-called pandemic, that was unparalleled.”  

Peterson pointed out that the mRNA vaccines were a “radically transformed form of vaccine.”  

He explained that the technology was “so new that the potential danger of its mass administration was highly probable to be at least or more dangerous than the thing that it was supposed to protect against. And we are seeing that in the excess deaths.”   

Peterson further stated that the vaccines were not effective in preventing the transmission of COVID, as they had been previously advertised to do.  

In response, Bonnell argued that officials did not claim that the vaccine would completely prevent transmission, but rather United States President Joe Biden mentioned it in one speech.  

However, Peterson, a Canadian, reminded Bonnell that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau prevented the unvaccinated from traveling under the pretense that doing so was a protective measure against the spread of COVID.

“Do you know that our Prime Minister in Canada deprived Canadians of the right to travel for some six months because the unvaccinated were going to transmit COVID with more likelihood than the vaccinated?” he questioned.   

“So this wasn’t one bloody statement, this was a thorough government policy in my country,” he insisted.   

Bonnell, however, continued to deny the dangers of the vaccine, arguing that no “credible” source or “huge institution” has exposed the dangers of the vaccine.   

“What do you make of the excess deaths?” Peterson pressed in response.  

“I don’t even know if there are 20 percent excess deaths in Europe right now,” Bonnell replied, attributing the rise in deaths to an overwhelmed healthcare system, the war in Ukraine, and a “rise in energy costs.”  

“But isn’t it possible that any of it could be unintended consequences of a novel technology injected into billions of people?” Peterson countered.   

Peterson’s argument is well-supported by recent studies which reveal excess deaths have skyrocketed around the world since the rollout of the COVID vaccines.  

Side effects linked to the rollout of the experimental jabs include upticks in heart, brain and blood diseases, among others issues. 

Additionally, numerous studies and many thousands of scientists and leading health professionals, including Nobel Prize winners and medics, have testified to the unprecedented level of injuries and deaths following and resulting from the COVID injections.  

The latest conservative estimate is that over 17 million worldwide died from receiving the injections making this the worst man-caused medical catastrophe in history. 

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Elon Musk-backed doctor critical of COVID response vows appeal after court sides with medical board

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By Anthony Murdoch

One of Gill’s “controversial” posts read, “If you have not yet figured out that we don’t need a vaccine, you are not paying attention. ”  

A Canadian physician who challenged her medical regulator after it placed “cautions” against her for speaking out against draconian COVID mandates on social media has lost a court battle, but with the help of her Elon Musk-backed legal team she has vowed to appeal the ruling. 

The case concerns Dr. Kulvinder Kaur Gill, an Ontario pediatrician who has been embroiled in a legal battle with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO) for her anti-COVID views posted on X (formerly Twitter) in 2020. As reported by LifeSiteNews, her case received the support of billionaire Tesla and X owner Elon Musk, who pledged in March to back her financially.  

One of Gill’s “controversial” posts read, “If you have not yet figured out that we don’t need a vaccine, you are not paying attention. #FactsNotFear.”  

The Divisional Court decision against Gill dated May 7, 2024, concluded, “When the College chose to draw the line at those tweets which it found contained misinformation, it did so in a way which reasonably balanced Dr. Gill’s free speech rights with her professional responsibilities.” 

“In other words, its response was proportionate,” noted the ruling. 

Gill’s lawyer, Lisa Bildy with Libertas Law, stated in a press release sent to LifeSiteNews that the “Court declined to quash the ‘cautions’ orders, finding that the ‘screening committee’ of the CPSO was sufficiently alert to the Charter infringement of Dr. Gill’s speech, such that its decisions were within the range of reasonable outcomes.” 

“Dr. Gill had argued, in two factums,” noted Bildy, which can be found here and here , and filed in the companion court applications, that “her statements were not ‘verifiably false.’” 

Bildy expressed that Gill had provided the College with “ample evidence in 2020 to support her position against lockdowns,” but was sanctioned “because they went against the College’s guidance that doctors should not express opinions contradicting government or its public health edicts.” 

Gill’s court challenge against the CPSO began last month, with Bildy writing at the time that the College’s “decisions were neither reasonable nor justified and they failed to engage with the central issues for which Dr. Gill was being cautioned.” 

“The decision starts with the premise that doctors have to comply,” said Bildy, warning that censoring doctors would have a “chilling effect” on free speech.    

Bildy noted that in its ruling, the court “disagreed” with Gill’s challenge, “stating that this invited a reweighing of the evidence.” 

The court also ordered that Gill pay the CPSO $6,000 in legal costs.  

Gill is a specialist practicing in the Greater Toronto area, and has extensive experience and training in “pediatrics, and allergy and clinical immunology, including scientific research in microbiology, virology and vaccinology.” 

Last September, disciplinary proceedings against her were withdrawn by the CPSO. However, last year, Gill was ordered to pay $1 million in legal costs after her libel suit was struck down. 

The CPSO began disciplinary investigations against Gill in August 2020.  

Gill to appeal recent court ruling with support from Musk’s X  

The court’s ruling asserted that the CPSO panel members consisted of “three physicians with highly relevant expertise that they were able to bring to bear when assessing the scientific and medical information before them, expertise that this court does not have.” 

Bildy noted that in fact, the CPSO panel consisted of “three surgeons and a general member of the public who had deferred to the ‘expertise’ of government’s public health arm.” 

The court ruling also dismissed Gill’s arguments that publishing the “cautions on her public register and disseminating a notice about the cautions to hospitals and regulators across the continent was punitive and had a chilling effect on one side of a debate.” 

“The Court opted to align with other Divisional Court decisions in stating that the cautions were not a finding of professional misconduct but were merely a remedial measure. This is despite the fact that cautions have, only in recent years, become a public rebuke rather than a private ‘correction’ of a professional by their peers. This significant change has not yet been grappled with by the Ontario Court of Appeal,” noted Bildy.  

Bildy said that Gill intends to “seek leave to appeal to the Ontario Court of Appeal with the support of X Corp., since her posts were made on the X platform which supports free expression and dialogue, even on contentious issues and particularly on matters of scientific and medical importance.”  

Gill noted on X Tuesday that her “notice of motion for leave to appeal will be filed” next week “to begin process.” 

She also thanked Musk and X for supporting her legal cause.  

Gill had said that she had “suddenly” found herself going “against the narrative,” and was then “seen as a black sheep and as someone who should be shunned.” 

Many Canadian doctors who spoke out against COVID mandates and the experimental mRNA injections have been censured by their medical boards. 

Earlier this month, Elon Musk’s X announced that it will fund the legal battle for another Canadian doctor critical of COVID lockdowns, Dr. Matthew Strauss, an Ontario critical care physician and professor, against his former employer Queen’s University after it forced him to resign. 

In an interview with LifeSiteNews at its annual general meeting in July 2023 near Toronto, canceled doctors Mary O’Connor, Mark Trozzi, Chris Shoemaker, and Byram Bridle were asked to state their messages to the medical community regarding how they have had to fight censure because they have opinions contrary to the COVID mainstream narrative. 

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Healthcare workers obtain partial win against Bonnie Henry in BC Supreme Court

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The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms is pleased to announce that the British Columbia Supreme Court has remitted back to the provincial health officer the issue of whether remote working and administrative health care workers must take the Covid vaccine as a condition of being able to work in a health care system that the BC government claims is grossly understaffed.

While the Justice Centre is disappointed that the court upheld the Covid vaccine mandate on BC healthcare workers, this decision is viewed as a substantial win for those remote-working and administrative healthcare workers who lost their jobs due to an unfair Covid vaccine mandate and other Health Orders put in place by BC provincial health officer Bonnie Henry, starting in November 2021. The court’s decision was released on Friday, May 10, 2024, by Justice Simon Coval in Vancouver.

The Justice Centre provided for lawyers to represent the healthcare workers, who filed their Petition to the Court on March 16, 2022. Oral arguments were presented November 20 to December 1, 2023, and December 18 to December 21, 2023. The petitioners argued that the orders violated their Charter rights, section 2(a) freedom of conscience and religion, section 7 right to life, liberty and security of the person, and section 15 equality rights.

The case is formally known as Tatlock, Koop, et al. v. BC and Dr. Bonnie Henry. More background is available at this link.

Charlene Le Beau, co-counsel for the petitioners, says, “This case was a Judicial Review, which means the court had to determine whether Dr. Bonnie Henry acted reasonably in making the Covid vaccine a condition of employment. We are disappointed with the court finding that Dr. Henry acted reasonably, but pleased with the court also finding that the application of the Orders to remote-working and administrative workers went too far. As a result, the court remitted the issue back to Dr. Henry so that, in light of the reasons for judgment, she can consider whether to accept requests for exemption to the vaccine for those groups of workers. This is a positive result for BC nurses, doctors and other health care workers.”

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